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0: - This parking lot in California

2: is piling up with empty Boeing and Airbus aircraft,

6: planes that, until recently,

9: were busy flying people to places,

12: and then suddenly people stopped flying.

15: Daily traffic is down some 80% from its peak in 2019.

20: Airlines are fighting for survival

22: as airport activity has fallen to near zero.

26: Meanwhile, industry giants, Boeing and Airbus,

29: have seen order cancellations

31: and furloughed or laid off staff.

33: - I don't believe the industry

34: has ever seen anything like this,

36: and because of that, there's no one you can turn to.

39: We're literally all learning as we go.

42: - [Jaden] Boeing, already weakened by the 737 MAX crisis,

46: saw its stock drop more than 70% in February and March

51: while Airbus' fell about 65% in the same period.

55: The plane makers employ hundreds of thousands of people

59: in several countries,

60: and they're major economic players,

63: often at the center of global politics.

66: - Both those companies are in many ways too big to fail.

70: - [David] Nobody has an interest in retaining

72: government equity in their company.

74: - We can recover from this crisis.

77: - So as the coronavirus pandemic shakes up the industry,

81: we wanted to know,

82: what will it take for Boeing and Airbus

84: to survive this unprecedented crisis,

87: and what does it mean for the future of aviation?

92: - Before coronavirus,

93: Boeing was already struggling to get regulator approval

96: to return its 737 Max to the skies,

99: as the jet was grounded after two deadly accidents

102: linked to a faulty flight control system.

105: In another blow, Boeing recently dropped

108: its 4.2 billion dollar bid to team up

111: with Brazilian jet maker, Embraer,

113: which was supposed to transform the aviation industry,

117: and Airbus had already overtaken Boeing

119: as the world's top plane maker in terms of deliveries.

122: - We think our capacity to compete

125: and be strong on the long term is intact, if not improved.

132: - [Jaden] I wanted to get a better idea

133: of how well-positioned the plane makers are

136: to withstand this crisis

138: so I called Addison Schonland, a partner at AirInsight.

143: - It appears as we sit here right now,

146: there's an advantage to Airbus

147: given its particular tools available to airlines.

152: Boeing is at a disadvantage now

154: because of the MAX grounding

156: and the incompletion of the Boeing/Brazil project.

162: - [Jaden] Now, the coronavirus pandemic

164: has forced the companies to draft survival plans.

168: - We will be suspending all travel

170: from Europe to the United States for the next 30 days.

174: - [Jaden] Air passenger volumes fell more than 90%

177: sending airlines into crisis.

180: In February, major airlines like Delta and United

183: started to cut their losses by canceling some flights.

187: Only weeks later, the collapse in air travel

190: had already trickled down to Boeing and Airbus,

193: with many orders being postponed or canceled.

196: In the first three months of 2020,

198: Boeing saw customers cancel 196 of its aircraft orders.

203: Airbus had 66 cancellations

205: and said almost all of its customers have approached it

209: to discuss deferring or canceling orders.

211: - We're accustomed to bad years like 9/11

215: or the SARS year, Gulf War One,

218: but at the end of the day this is just an unprecedented

221: freezing up of the end user market.

225: - Even in this crisis, both Boeing and Airbus

228: have a key customer they can count on, governments.

232: They're some of the world's biggest defense contractors,

235: with the U.S. Navy even ordering new planes

238: from Boeing amid the pandemic.

240: - The ultimate safe haven right now is defense,

242: particularly U.S. defense programs.

245: - [Jaden] Through their history,

246: Boeing and Airbus have become ingrained

248: in defense, industrial development, and geopolitics.

253: Boeing has worked with the U.S. government

255: to build military planes since World War I,

258: and Airbus' very inception

260: is deeply rooted in European politics,

263: as it was formed as an example of how European countries

266: and companies are stronger when they come together.

270: - Airbus doesn't have a hundred years of history,

273: but if you look at what Airbus consists of,

275: all those European aerospace companies

277: that came together that were also very old,

280: brought with them amazing amount of knowledge.

284: - Boeing and Airbus both spend millions of dollars

286: on lobbying every year.

288: They've criticized each other

289: for getting unfair government subsidies,

291: and they're both massive employers

294: with roughly 161,000 and 134,000 employees respectively,

299: so a major hit to one of their bottom lines

302: means a potential hit to a lot

304: of American and European jobs.

307: When the U.S. government was crafting

309: its two trillion dollar coronavirus stimulus package,

312: a big part of the bailout was focused

314: on the aviation industry.

316: The bill included 17 billion dollars

319: for companies deemed essential to national security,

322: which could potentially include Boeing.

325: Here's the thing, as of early May,

328: some airlines had applied for government aid,

330: but Boeing hadn't,

333: and the idea of Boeing getting bailed out

335: by taxpayer money is sensitive.

337: - You can imagine that those companies,

339: the management is going to fight tooth and nail

342: to prevent the government saying,

344: "Here's 60 billion dollars.

346: "By the way, here's the warrants

347: "and here's the stuff that we're taking.

349: "We own you."

350: - [Jaden] Any loans offered by the government

351: would likely come with strings attached,

354: like limiting stock buybacks, layoffs,

356: and giving the U.S. government a stake in the company,

360: something Boeing CEO suggested he wouldn't be open to.

364: - [David] I don't have a need for an equity stake.

366: If they force it, we just looked at all the other options,

369: and we've got plenty of them.

371: - So what are the options for Boeing and Airbus

374: to keep the cash flowing?

375: Well, they have assets.

378: In May, Boeing raised 25 billion dollars

381: from private investors and said it didn't expect

384: to need anymore funds, including government aid.

387: But Boeing has already suffered a number of new setbacks.

392: It's now facing civil and criminal scrutiny

394: over the 737 MAX crisis.

397: It suspended its dividend,

399: is offering staff buyout packages,

401: and plans to cut its workforce by 10% this year.

405: - Airbus and the border (mumbles) sector,

408: we emerge from this difficult period eventually.

411: - [Jaden] Airbus also needs to cut spending,

413: but after the pandemic, analysts expect the market

416: for smaller planes to grow

418: because domestic travel is expected to bounce back first,

421: and Airbus can offer its direct competitor to the 737 MAX,

426: its best-selling A320 family.

429: That includes the A321LR, a single-aisle plane

433: that's capable of transatlantic routes.

436: - Boeing really doesn't have a competitor to that jet.

439: - [Jaden] And both companies will likely face

441: a big supply chain issue.

443: Boeing and Airbus rely on a massive network

446: of smaller companies that are struggling to survive.

449: - The million parts that you see flying in close formation

453: that is actually an airplane,

454: all those parts come from all kinds of places

457: around the globe.

458: Some of these places,

459: the companies that make these small parts,

461: are literally family-owned, they're tiny.

464: They don't have the resources

465: if the system is shaken up like this.

469: How do you protect them?

470: - [Jaden] Analysts say it could potentially

472: take several years before the aviation industry recovers,

476: but whenever people will need new planes,

479: they'll likely come from Boeing or Airbus.

482: Not that there are many alternatives.

484: The duopoly makes up about 99%

487: of all large commercial plane orders,

489: with China's state-run plane maker

491: believed to be 10 to 20 years out

493: from becoming a real competitor.

496: - Will the companies be different

497: at the end of this pandemic?

499: Probably, the longer it goes,

500: the more that there will be some kind of structural change,

505: but neither of those companies,

507: based where they are, are dispensable,

510: so I think that whatever happens, we come through this,

514: and they may be different,

517: but they will remain the two top dogs in that industry.

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How the world's two largest aircraft manufacturers are facing up to the economic crisis caused by the Coronavirus.

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0: - This parking lot in California
2: is piling up with empty Boeing and Airbus aircraft,
6: planes that, until recently,
9: were busy flying people to places,
12: and then suddenly people stopped flying.
15: Daily traffic is down some 80% from its peak in 2019.
20: Airlines are fighting for survival
22: as airport activity has fallen to near zero.
26: Meanwhile, industry giants, Boeing and Airbus,
29: have seen order cancellations
31: and furloughed or laid off staff.
33: - I don't believe the industry
34: has ever seen anything like this,
36: and because of that, there's no one you can turn to.
39: We're literally all learning as we go.
42: - [Jaden] Boeing, already weakened by the 737 MAX crisis,
46: saw its stock drop more than 70% in February and March
51: while Airbus' fell about 65% in the same period.
55: The plane makers employ hundreds of thousands of people
59: in several countries,
60: and they're major economic players,
63: often at the center of global politics.
66: - Both those companies are in many ways too big to fail.
70: - [David] Nobody has an interest in retaining
72: government equity in their company.
74: - We can recover from this crisis.
77: - So as the coronavirus pandemic shakes up the industry,
81: we wanted to know,
82: what will it take for Boeing and Airbus
84: to survive this unprecedented crisis,
87: and what does it mean for the future of aviation?
92: - Before coronavirus,
93: Boeing was already struggling to get regulator approval
96: to return its 737 Max to the skies,
99: as the jet was grounded after two deadly accidents
102: linked to a faulty flight control system.
105: In another blow, Boeing recently dropped
108: its 4.2 billion dollar bid to team up
111: with Brazilian jet maker, Embraer,
113: which was supposed to transform the aviation industry,
117: and Airbus had already overtaken Boeing
119: as the world's top plane maker in terms of deliveries.
122: - We think our capacity to compete
125: and be strong on the long term is intact, if not improved.
132: - [Jaden] I wanted to get a better idea
133: of how well-positioned the plane makers are
136: to withstand this crisis
138: so I called Addison Schonland, a partner at AirInsight.
143: - It appears as we sit here right now,
146: there's an advantage to Airbus
147: given its particular tools available to airlines.
152: Boeing is at a disadvantage now
154: because of the MAX grounding
156: and the incompletion of the Boeing/Brazil project.
162: - [Jaden] Now, the coronavirus pandemic
164: has forced the companies to draft survival plans.
168: - We will be suspending all travel
170: from Europe to the United States for the next 30 days.
174: - [Jaden] Air passenger volumes fell more than 90%
177: sending airlines into crisis.
180: In February, major airlines like Delta and United
183: started to cut their losses by canceling some flights.
187: Only weeks later, the collapse in air travel
190: had already trickled down to Boeing and Airbus,
193: with many orders being postponed or canceled.
196: In the first three months of 2020,
198: Boeing saw customers cancel 196 of its aircraft orders.
203: Airbus had 66 cancellations
205: and said almost all of its customers have approached it
209: to discuss deferring or canceling orders.
211: - We're accustomed to bad years like 9/11
215: or the SARS year, Gulf War One,
218: but at the end of the day this is just an unprecedented
221: freezing up of the end user market.
225: - Even in this crisis, both Boeing and Airbus
228: have a key customer they can count on, governments.
232: They're some of the world's biggest defense contractors,
235: with the U.S. Navy even ordering new planes
238: from Boeing amid the pandemic.
240: - The ultimate safe haven right now is defense,
242: particularly U.S. defense programs.
245: - [Jaden] Through their history,
246: Boeing and Airbus have become ingrained
248: in defense, industrial development, and geopolitics.
253: Boeing has worked with the U.S. government
255: to build military planes since World War I,
258: and Airbus' very inception
260: is deeply rooted in European politics,
263: as it was formed as an example of how European countries
266: and companies are stronger when they come together.
270: - Airbus doesn't have a hundred years of history,
273: but if you look at what Airbus consists of,
275: all those European aerospace companies
277: that came together that were also very old,
280: brought with them amazing amount of knowledge.
284: - Boeing and Airbus both spend millions of dollars
286: on lobbying every year.
288: They've criticized each other
289: for getting unfair government subsidies,
291: and they're both massive employers
294: with roughly 161,000 and 134,000 employees respectively,
299: so a major hit to one of their bottom lines
302: means a potential hit to a lot
304: of American and European jobs.
307: When the U.S. government was crafting
309: its two trillion dollar coronavirus stimulus package,
312: a big part of the bailout was focused
314: on the aviation industry.
316: The bill included 17 billion dollars
319: for companies deemed essential to national security,
322: which could potentially include Boeing.
325: Here's the thing, as of early May,
328: some airlines had applied for government aid,
330: but Boeing hadn't,
333: and the idea of Boeing getting bailed out
335: by taxpayer money is sensitive.
337: - You can imagine that those companies,
339: the management is going to fight tooth and nail
342: to prevent the government saying,
344: "Here's 60 billion dollars.
346: "By the way, here's the warrants
347: "and here's the stuff that we're taking.
349: "We own you."
350: - [Jaden] Any loans offered by the government
351: would likely come with strings attached,
354: like limiting stock buybacks, layoffs,
356: and giving the U.S. government a stake in the company,
360: something Boeing CEO suggested he wouldn't be open to.
364: - [David] I don't have a need for an equity stake.
366: If they force it, we just looked at all the other options,
369: and we've got plenty of them.
371: - So what are the options for Boeing and Airbus
374: to keep the cash flowing?
375: Well, they have assets.
378: In May, Boeing raised 25 billion dollars
381: from private investors and said it didn't expect
384: to need anymore funds, including government aid.
387: But Boeing has already suffered a number of new setbacks.
392: It's now facing civil and criminal scrutiny
394: over the 737 MAX crisis.
397: It suspended its dividend,
399: is offering staff buyout packages,
401: and plans to cut its workforce by 10% this year.
405: - Airbus and the border (mumbles) sector,
408: we emerge from this difficult period eventually.
411: - [Jaden] Airbus also needs to cut spending,
413: but after the pandemic, analysts expect the market
416: for smaller planes to grow
418: because domestic travel is expected to bounce back first,
421: and Airbus can offer its direct competitor to the 737 MAX,
426: its best-selling A320 family.
429: That includes the A321LR, a single-aisle plane
433: that's capable of transatlantic routes.
436: - Boeing really doesn't have a competitor to that jet.
439: - [Jaden] And both companies will likely face
441: a big supply chain issue.
443: Boeing and Airbus rely on a massive network
446: of smaller companies that are struggling to survive.
449: - The million parts that you see flying in close formation
453: that is actually an airplane,
454: all those parts come from all kinds of places
457: around the globe.
458: Some of these places,
459: the companies that make these small parts,
461: are literally family-owned, they're tiny.
464: They don't have the resources
465: if the system is shaken up like this.
469: How do you protect them?
470: - [Jaden] Analysts say it could potentially
472: take several years before the aviation industry recovers,
476: but whenever people will need new planes,
479: they'll likely come from Boeing or Airbus.
482: Not that there are many alternatives.
484: The duopoly makes up about 99%
487: of all large commercial plane orders,
489: with China's state-run plane maker
491: believed to be 10 to 20 years out
493: from becoming a real competitor.
496: - Will the companies be different
497: at the end of this pandemic?
499: Probably, the longer it goes,
500: the more that there will be some kind of structural change,
505: but neither of those companies,
507: based where they are, are dispensable,
510: so I think that whatever happens, we come through this,
514: and they may be different,
517: but they will remain the two top dogs in that industry.

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